Bryan Neale, Brooke Green,
and Bill Caskey


Value is the relief that your prospect feels when you can find and solve a pain they have.

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December 14th, 2007

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August 14th, 2008
Sales Podcast: What Is the Worst Thing You Can Hear From Your Prospect?

In this episode, Bill and Bryan discuss some of the most gut-wrenching things you will hear from your prospect. It seems like things can be ...READ MORE

Sales Podcast: What Is the Worst Thing You Can Hear From Your Prospect?

Thursday, August 14th, 2008

In this episode, Bill and Bryan discuss some of the most gut-wrenching things you will hear from your prospect. It seems like things can be going along very smoothly in the sales process, and, all at once, the prospect says something that throws you for a loop. They talk about what to do about these objections/verbatims when they arise.

 
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July 2nd, 2008
Sales Podcast: Why Businesswomen Should Negotiate (Part 2)

Today's Ultimate Sales Chick Podcast is Part 2 on negotiation. Brooke Green shares 3 tips to a successful negotiation: 1) getting good at opening the ...READ MORE

Sales Podcast: Why Businesswomen Should Negotiate (Part 2)

Wednesday, July 2nd, 2008

Today’s Ultimate Sales Chick Podcast is Part 2 on negotiation. Brooke Green shares 3 tips to a successful negotiation: 1) getting good at opening the conversation, 2) getting good at finding out what motivates your prospect, and 3) economics–helping your prospect put a price on their problem.

 
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June 19th, 2008
Sales Podcast: Pilot Error

Airline pilots and sales pros have a lot in common. (Although people's lives hang in the balance of the pilot—and maybe not the salesperson.) In ...READ MORE

Sales Podcast: Pilot Error

Thursday, June 19th, 2008

Airline pilots and sales pros have a lot in common. (Although people’s lives hang in the balance of the pilot—and maybe not the salesperson.) In this episode, Bill and Bryan discuss the analogy in a way that you can learn from – that will help you know where you are with customers.

 
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December 21st, 2007
Pharma Reps-Change Or You Might Become Expendable.

I work with a fair number of pharma reps--and I must tell you--there are changes you'll have to make in order to be of value ...READ MORE

Pharma Reps-Change Or You Might Become Expendable.

Friday, December 21st, 2007

I work with a fair number of pharma reps–and I must tell you–there are changes you’ll have to make in order to be of value to your clients.

Here’s an idea: Instead of moving into the sales process operating from a place of “how do I get the Doc to prescribe my drug?” - move into the relationship from a place of, “what can I do in order to help the Doc solve a problem?” Do you see the difference? You should. Because you bring value the second way. Doing it the old way–how do I get him to prescribe?–you set yourself up for lies and reluctance. And you bring no value. Plus, you’re like every other pharma rep that shows up. That’s not in your best interest.

The Doc’s Problems
Think about how tough it is to be in the medical profession today: Regulations, annoying/slow insurance companies, staff issues, long hours, less money….and all the other stuff that comes with the profession. Then he has you to deal with–and all others like you. Why don’t you step back and think about how you can solve his problems by you doing what you do.

First make a list of the problems, then next to that, list out how you can help him. I don’t expect you to help in all of these areas, but maybe you could help him by being more of a resource for him and his patients. Maybe you could help him by providing some training for his staff in a certain disease state area. You are creative–so you come up with how to help him solve problems.

Then, the next time you show up, tell him what you’re up to. Tell him that your intent for the new year is to be more of a problem-finder and solver than you have in the past. See what happens.

December 20th, 2007
Sales Managers: How Much Time Do You Spend Talking Value?

If you're in the majority, you probably fill your meeting time with forecasting rubbish. You know: "what's in the sales funnel? when is that going ...READ MORE

Sales Managers: How Much Time Do You Spend Talking Value?

Thursday, December 20th, 2007

If you’re in the majority, you probably fill your meeting time with forecasting rubbish. You know: “what’s in the sales funnel? when is that going to close? what do we need to get them over the hump?”

For God’s sake, dump that technique. There is no growth in funnel review. If you must do that (which you must) do it in a short time frame, or one-on-one.

Instead use valuable group time to do valuable group work.

What is that? Here’s a suggestion from one of our clients after he’d been working with us for a few months.

“Bill, I use 75% of the sales meetings asking them one question: What have you done since last meeting to help your clients solve problems?”

At first, he reported that he got very few comments. But since we (Caskey) were training his people to reinvent themselves in the sales process–away from being the master persuader (where it was all about you) and toward a process where they were focused on the prospect and their problems, they eventually got it.

As he observed his most recent sales meeting he said he was shocked at how the mojo in the room had improved. The motivation level was enormous. And it all had to do with changing the focus of the meeting–to solving customer problems.

Try it. It takes some courage. But it works.

October 18th, 2007
The Best Sales People Might Not be the Sales People - So Who Are They?

We work with a technology firm that has a 90-day selling cycle and a 90-day implementation cycle. They sell telecom/networking/convergence technology. But here's the problem. ...READ MORE

The Best Sales People Might Not be the Sales People - So Who Are They?

Thursday, October 18th, 2007
We work with a technology firm that has a 90-day selling cycle and a 90-day implementation cycle. They sell telecom/networking/convergence technology. But here’s the problem. The customer - at the point of sale, when the contract is signed - is ecstatic - full of excitement.

But by the time the implementation is over, the customer loses interest (by the way, we’re talking about $500,000 solutions here). Why is that?

It might be a problem you have too, so listen up.

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    1. The project managers aren’t good at managing relationships. They are in a “let’s get it done - give me the data” mode. Not always good for the warm relationships that the sales/account people had created.
    2. The sales person, who created the bonding and rapport, and who, following our system of selling, found the pain and the possibility (sometimes this is quite emotional for the prospect) leaves the process. The President of my client company even used the description, “Their jaws dropped when I told them the sales person was moving on and the PM would take over.”
    3. All  of these hours of research on the part of the AE get swept up into a 10 page SCOPE OF WORK. Sorry, but that won’t do.
    4. The Original Pain/Possibility loses attention. The PM’s barely know what it means to solve business problems. All they know is technology. So all of this talk in the sales process about how we solve “business problems” washes away.
    5. Velocity wanes. Referrals are hard to come by. Did you ever wonder why referrals are so difficult to get? Maybe it has to do with the customer’s lack of excitement after the solution is implemented.

So what to do?

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    1. Train your Project Managers (subject matter experts) the art of communication and expectation management. And throw in some relationship skills to the mix.
    2. Have the AE continue in some capacity throughout the implementation.
    3. Don’t talk about the Hand Off (or Turnover) meeting.
    4. Introduce the PM (or whoever will be handling the implementation) PRIOR to the deal signing.
    5. Have a TOTAL REVIEW at the end with the AE in attendance. That’s the time there should be a referral process.

In our consulting practice, we’re starting to hear more about this issue. And we’re starting to do more training for the “back end” people. Not a bad investment since it can cut your marketing costs significantly by getting more referrals on the back end.

October 11th, 2007
The Mindset of the Entrepreneur

A couple of weeks ago I had the chance to speak to the Greenville Chamber of Commerce to the NEXT Group, a subset of the ...READ MORE

The Mindset of the Entrepreneur

Thursday, October 11th, 2007
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A couple of weeks ago I had the chance to speak to the Greenville Chamber of Commerce to the NEXT Group, a subset of the Chamber specializing in emerging technology companies.   One of the challenges that entrepreneurs face in building their business is that they need to respect, revere and understand what “selling” is and how it can be done most effectively. 

In the technology field, the problem is complicated by the fact that these are custom solutions many times and not off-the-shelf, in-the-box products.  Consequently, it changes how you sell to someone.

There were three major lessons that came from this program, and I hope you can learn something from them. 

1. All Sales Success Starts in The Mind:  The title of this program was “Rewire the Sales Mind.” And the assumption I have is that how you think determines how you act and how you achieve.  Look at the top two percent of sales achievers and you will find they think differently about the role of the sales professional.  The main difference, I suggested, was great sales people don’t look like clowns (average sales people), instead they look like competent problem finders and problem solvers for their customers.  So if you’ve been reading the old books about how to convince, persuade and defend, throw those books out because they don’t work anymore – or at least they don’t work to the level you need them to work.

2. Your Market is Abundant by Its Very Nature:  I believe that virtually every market is abundant; however, we don’t always see them so.  Two reasons the technology market is abundant is because a) the pain that the technology solves is abundant, and b) most technology companies are absolutely pathetic at communicating the value of their solution.  Consequently, many problems remain unsolved because the right vendor has not come along with the right expression of the solution.  So when you’re out in the market, I suggested that you not take just any deal (which is customary for start up companies) but instead take only the deals that are right for you, since we know there is an abundant, never ending supply of them on the back end.

3. When You Have What They Want, You Control The Process:  You see the reason most sales organizations fail to optimize the sales asset and perform at 30-50% of what’s possible, is they lack the perspective to be in control of the sales process.  Your customer has a problem; you have a solution—you have what he needs.  That puts you in control of the process (not of the people in the process, but the process itself). 

Most sales training doesn’t teach this.  Most old, worn-out, antiquated sales training teaches that you’ve got to “do what it takes to get the order.”  That perspective is offensive to me and to the clients that we teach.  Spend your time working on how you bring value and the problems you solve with that value and then go find people that have those problems.  Don’t make it more complicated than it is. 

A final note – thanks to Jim Henderson who set up the program and Brenda Laakso at the Greenville Chamber for organizing the details.  And hats off to the Greenville Chamber for thinking outside the box in creating a learning experience for their members.

                                                                        

October 4th, 2007
What Entrepreneurs Need to Know About Selling . . .

I was invited down to Greenville, SC recently for the Chamber of Commerce NEXT training program. This Chamber is unique in that it brings in ...READ MORE

What Entrepreneurs Need to Know About Selling . . .

Thursday, October 4th, 2007

I was invited down to GreenviCaskeypointinggreenvillelle, SC recently for the Chamber of Commerce NEXT training program. This Chamber is unique in that it brings in people who can help their members grow. NEXT is a subset of the Chamber that is made up of technology companies who are emerging or in early stages of growth.

Here is the rundown on what we discussed:

  1. STOP SELLING AND START FINDING PROBLEMS. Your ability to sell is congruent with your ability to find the problems your customer has in absence of your product. The old game of selling is based on CONVINCE and Defend. Get out of that mindset. That’s for amateurs. Replace it with “Find and Solve” mentality.
  2. CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE FOR TRUTH. You won’t get your prospect to tell you anything if you can’t create that atmosphere. Start by saying, “I don’t really know if my company can bring any value to you - but I thought we could talk and explore together.”
  3. HAVE A SALES PROCESS. I know this is a big one, but we went through a sample sales process that will work for anyone. Can’t get into detail here, but here it is: STEP 1: Exploration (where you explore what his/her dreams are and roadblocks anticipated. STEP 2: Denomination (where you and he identify the monetary impact of NOT solving the problem.) STEP 3: Recommendation (where you recommend solutions/procedures based on his problems and opportunities). STEP 4: Engagement (where you collect money, sign contracts and get working.)

Thanks to Jim Henderson and Brenda Laakso (Greenville Chamber) for organizing the program. We’ll be working with this group on an ongoing basis beginning in October.

If you’re in a Chamber that this would work for, call Debbie Rabb at 317.575.0057 or Skype her at “debbie.rabb” and she’ll set it up.

September 26th, 2007
Your Prospect is Asking One Question - Always. Do You Know What It Is?

Pete Ramsey was a really good guy. But from the moment he came in to seek counsel, I could see he had a huge problem ...READ MORE

Your Prospect is Asking One Question - Always. Do You Know What It Is?

Wednesday, September 26th, 2007
Pete Ramsey was a really good guy. But from the moment he came in to seek counsel, I could see he had a huge problem - his general approach to business life (and sales) was way off. But how do you tell a guy who’s in his 40’s and somewhat successful, that his approach was old and over the top - and costing him money?

But our style is to tell the truth - even if it upsets people and isn’t what they want to hear. So I had to tell Pete the truth and here’s what I said:

“Pete, you suffer from what most sales people suffer from - ignorance of human nature. You think that if you show up and are articulate, well-groomed and enthusiastic that the prospect will trust you - and buy from you. And that’s WRONG. You think that if you act from a mode of ‘convince and persuade’ then people will ’see the light’ and trust you.”

“But you see, the mode most sales people operate from is exactly the wrong mode to help the prospect answer the one question on his mind: Will this person (salesperson) act in my best interest?”

“If he can’t answer a resounding ‘YES’ to that, then you haven’t inspired trust. And you won’t get the truth - or the sale.”

Pete didn’t like my observation. But he knew it was accurate. In fact, he had been having trouble even getting past the first meeting with prospects - for that exact reason - they didn’t trust that he had their interest in mind.

So, to be a high achieving sales professional, you must be a student of human nature. And the study of human nature will tell you that a human being asks one question before all others when making a decision: Is this in my best interest?

If you are entering the sales process from a position of “what’s in this for me (a sale? a contest? money?)” then the prospect picks up on this and you won’t get the sale. His instincts tell him that you are not really there for HIM - you are there for YOU.

ACTION
So I suggest when you review your message and how your first call sounds, that you do a rigorous checklist. And on that checklist should be things like:

     ==Does my message sound too self-serving?
     ==Does my message speak in his language?
     ==When speaking about my product, do I sell hard, trying to convince?
     ==When handling objections/stalls, do I sound desperate?

Now, here’s the hidden, dirty little secret to all of this: You may not able to observe yourself accurately. It’s likely that you are too interested in protecting what you already do to see any shortcomings.

Consequently, it will work best if you have a friend or manager listen to some of your phone conversations (or select someone who has been with you on appointments) and ask them if you sound too ‘needy.’  Ask them the question: “If you were the prospect, how would you feel with my approach?”

Select someone honest. And listen to what they say. It may be the best coaching you’ve ever had.

September 20th, 2007
Stick to Your Sales Process

Have you ever wondered why the prospect wants to control the sales process? Other than the fact that we’re all “control freaks” to some extent, ...READ MORE

Stick to Your Sales Process

Thursday, September 20th, 2007

Have you ever wondered why the prospect wants to control the sales process? Other than the fact that we’re all “control freaks” to some extent, it’s no wonder the prospect thinks – because he has the money – that he should control the sales process. But the fact is, he shouldn’t. You should control it. And in this week’s episode of the Advanced Selling Podcast, Bryan Neale and Bill Caskey tell you exactly how to do that.

 
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