Bryan Neale, Brooke Green,
and Bill Caskey


Value is the relief that your prospect feels when you can find and solve a pain they have.

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December 14th, 2007

Archive for September, 2007

September 26th, 2007
Your Prospect is Asking One Question - Always. Do You Know What It Is?

Pete Ramsey was a really good guy. But from the moment he came in to seek counsel, I could see he had a huge problem ...READ MORE

Your Prospect is Asking One Question - Always. Do You Know What It Is?

Wednesday, September 26th, 2007
Pete Ramsey was a really good guy. But from the moment he came in to seek counsel, I could see he had a huge problem - his general approach to business life (and sales) was way off. But how do you tell a guy who’s in his 40’s and somewhat successful, that his approach was old and over the top - and costing him money?

But our style is to tell the truth - even if it upsets people and isn’t what they want to hear. So I had to tell Pete the truth and here’s what I said:

“Pete, you suffer from what most sales people suffer from - ignorance of human nature. You think that if you show up and are articulate, well-groomed and enthusiastic that the prospect will trust you - and buy from you. And that’s WRONG. You think that if you act from a mode of ‘convince and persuade’ then people will ’see the light’ and trust you.”

“But you see, the mode most sales people operate from is exactly the wrong mode to help the prospect answer the one question on his mind: Will this person (salesperson) act in my best interest?”

“If he can’t answer a resounding ‘YES’ to that, then you haven’t inspired trust. And you won’t get the truth - or the sale.”

Pete didn’t like my observation. But he knew it was accurate. In fact, he had been having trouble even getting past the first meeting with prospects - for that exact reason - they didn’t trust that he had their interest in mind.

So, to be a high achieving sales professional, you must be a student of human nature. And the study of human nature will tell you that a human being asks one question before all others when making a decision: Is this in my best interest?

If you are entering the sales process from a position of “what’s in this for me (a sale? a contest? money?)” then the prospect picks up on this and you won’t get the sale. His instincts tell him that you are not really there for HIM - you are there for YOU.

ACTION
So I suggest when you review your message and how your first call sounds, that you do a rigorous checklist. And on that checklist should be things like:

     ==Does my message sound too self-serving?
     ==Does my message speak in his language?
     ==When speaking about my product, do I sell hard, trying to convince?
     ==When handling objections/stalls, do I sound desperate?

Now, here’s the hidden, dirty little secret to all of this: You may not able to observe yourself accurately. It’s likely that you are too interested in protecting what you already do to see any shortcomings.

Consequently, it will work best if you have a friend or manager listen to some of your phone conversations (or select someone who has been with you on appointments) and ask them if you sound too ‘needy.’  Ask them the question: “If you were the prospect, how would you feel with my approach?”

Select someone honest. And listen to what they say. It may be the best coaching you’ve ever had.

September 20th, 2007
How Do You Sell Your Self?

Steve Mullen interviewed me last week. He runs the Start Up Bizcast podcast. We talked about the idea of how a small business owner sells ...READ MORE

How Do You Sell Your Self?

Thursday, September 20th, 2007
Steve Mullen interviewed me last week. He runs the Start Up Bizcast podcast. We talked about the idea of how a small business owner sells him/herself.

I suggested we rethink what it means to be in sales. Thought you might like to listen to it.

Caskey Interview (about 13 minutes)

September 20th, 2007
Stick to Your Sales Process

Have you ever wondered why the prospect wants to control the sales process? Other than the fact that we’re all “control freaks” to some extent, ...READ MORE

Stick to Your Sales Process

Thursday, September 20th, 2007

Have you ever wondered why the prospect wants to control the sales process? Other than the fact that we’re all “control freaks” to some extent, it’s no wonder the prospect thinks – because he has the money – that he should control the sales process. But the fact is, he shouldn’t. You should control it. And in this week’s episode of the Advanced Selling Podcast, Bryan Neale and Bill Caskey tell you exactly how to do that.

 
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September 18th, 2007
Do You Know What You Do?

by Brooke Green Do you even know what you do?  Sounds absured doesn't it? Especially when you hear it from me - someone you don't even ...READ MORE

Do You Know What You Do?

Tuesday, September 18th, 2007

by Brooke Green

Do you even know what you do?  Sounds absured doesn’t it? Especially when you hear it from me - someone you don’t even know. How dare I question you?

Well, here’s my experience: One of the biggest challenges that companies (and the people who work for them) have is understanding and communicating their value – and getting paid for it.

Most want to throw up features and benefits - the number of employees, number of offices, size of revenue, qualifications of people, etc. Boy, that’s interesting to a prospect– NOT!

Don’t you think people would rather hear about your company’s passion, how you help your clients solve problems, your “story”? Yes, they would.

By doing it the right way, you’re also taking the first step in differentiating yourself from others in your same business segment. If you can’t communicate your company’s value (and your value) in a way that differentiates you from your competition, what’s left?

Answer: Price.

And we know what happens when the focus of your offer becomes all about price. Let’s just put a sharp object in our eye and get it over with.

Doing This is HARD!

There are several things that you should know about creating a value statement:
1. It’s hard work.
2.  It’s never really finished.
3.  You will have several different value statements based on who you are talking to.

While it’s much easier to throw up facts and figures, what your company does should be all about your prospect - not about you wanting to get out as much information as possible. You’re not trying to sell them something. Your intent should be to help them understand how you work with companies to solve problems. It should evoke emotion from your prospect (and you). It needs to mean something.

You want them to say (or feel) “Hey, that’s me. Those are the EXACT problems we have.”

September 12th, 2007
The Training of a Large Sales Force (or any sales force for that matter)

I often hear from readers/listeners - telling me sob stories about the miserable sales development their company is forcing them to go through. Sorry about ...READ MORE

The Training of a Large Sales Force (or any sales force for that matter)

Wednesday, September 12th, 2007

I often hear from readers/listeners - telling me sob stories about the miserable sales development their company is forcing them to go through. Sorry about that.  It’s not unusual for training companies to go about the whole training gig in the worst way.

In fact, I suggest to companies that unless you’re going to do it correctly, don’t do it at all. It will waste a gob of money - and may even do more harm than good.

As you might guess, I’ve taken our team’s strategies and tactics in large group training, and boiled them down to a few. Thought you might enjoy. (Remember, this is not some PR department writing this. It’s me, and sometimes I’m politically incorrect - in the worst way.)

1 GET A THOROUGH UNDERSTANDING OF THE ISSUES
This includes not only the management opinions and insights, but also the insights of the sales team (to be trained). Adults learn better when they are sought out for their opinion on what skills they need to get better at. Do you know how many times I’ve heard the training company doesn’t even ask the sales team what they need/want/desire? Tons.

How absurd is that? The person to be trained doesn’t even get to name their biggest issue?

Also, denominate the issues you want to work on. Very little behavior change happens unless there is a good economic reason to do so. If  “not calling at the right level” is a problem for your team, then take a few hours to denominate what that means to your company. If you got the right level, would you close an additional 5% of proposals? If so, what would that mean, economically, to your company? If you can’t come up with a cost, then training won’t work.  (By the way, each of your people should be able to denominate what it costs them not to be trained.)

2 ALLOW TIME FOR SHARING BEST PRACTICES.
Most training companies are so eager to impart their agenda and fill meetings so full of crap, they don’t allow time for the group to share what’s working. What could be more valuable than Pete learning from Lisa how to do something in the field that yields business - whether it’s part of the “curriculum” or not?

Sometimes I wonder if the training firm is there for themselves or the client. The jury is out for me on that one.

3 CONSTANT REINFORCEMENT.
There MUST be ongoing reinforcement of the message. This can come from audio podcasts, telephone calls, and management support. Adults don’t learn by hearing something once. They learn by hearing, applying and feeding back - over and over again. This is especially true of material (like we teach) where there is a thinking change that must accompany behavior change. 

More and more businesses are using the multi media function of private blogs/podcasts to reinforce the message. If your company doesn’t have a training blog/podcast series, then shame on you - especially if your team is spread out all over a region or a nation.

4  THINKING CHANGE.
Content should change how people think—and how they see the world. Don’t expect people to be motivated to learn if you’re just giving them a rote process to go execute. Great training changes people at their core. Also, make damn sure your training isn’t just about how to sell more stuff for the company. You heard me. The best training is TOTALLY focused on helping the individual salesperson get better. Period. The economic value comes when your focus is totally on growing people. (Most companies miss this completely. It’s probably the best kept secret in training.)

5  PROBLEM SOLVING ORIENTATION.
The content must revolve around how to bring value to clients—not just how to sell more stuff. Consequently, the content must help the learners become better problem finders and solvers—since that’s where value is delivered to the customer. Unfortunately, this is not the case with most training. Most sales training is full of tricks and tactics (some quite manipulative) that have at their center point, “What do I need to say to get the customer to say ‘yes’?”

[Sales managers: If you want to de-motivate your sales force, then teach them sales tactics that make them look like clowns in the sales process. Reduce them to script-reading monkeys. Teach them how to overcome objections - in those old, antiquated ways. If you do those things, you'll get a bunch of people who give lip service to the content you've taught - and who will question their very existence in the profession of sales. Hardly motivating, huh?]

6  PRACTICAL APPLICATION.
Training should NOT be all theory. It’s OK if there is some, but great sales training must have a practical application side that each person leaves with. Something to go do. Have a trainer that is available to work on key deals—real life sales scenarios. If your training right now does not have a component of accountability to it - where the constituent is accountable for behavior in the field, then you might be wasting resources.

7 COACHING AND GUIDING.
When you ask people to change their outlook, perspective or philosophy, there must be a coach along to guide them when they hit personal roadblocks. I ran into a guy the other day who should have known how to do something (quite simple). It reminded me that I can’t assume anything about one’s competence when coaching them. I have to tell them exactly how to do something - word for word if need be.

8  USE A KICK OFF MEETING.
When starting training, we recommend some type of a face to face kick off of large programs. We realize much of the deliverable will be remote, but the first session should be face to face. In that session, make sure the Senior Sales Executive stands up and speaks from the heart - telling the constituents how important people development is for the firm. And how sales training is a competitive differentiator in the field.

These are a few of the things that are important to us when we get invited to train large groups. I thought you might like to see these so you could assess your current training. Or, if you’re considering bringing in someone like us to work with your team, this might be of value.

September 11th, 2007
Money Scripts

Ever have problems talking to your prospects about money - fees - prices? Did you know it might be something much deeper in your soul? ...READ MORE

Money Scripts

Tuesday, September 11th, 2007

Ever have problems talking to your prospects about money - fees - prices? Did you know it might be something much deeper in your soul? (It seems these guys think everything is ‘deeper in your soul’). Well, this one just might be. Bill and Bryan talk about the importance of money in how you earn and how you price your services.

 
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September 5th, 2007
You Might Be Calling on Someone Who Hates Their Job. What Should Your Sales Strategy Be?

This fits in the category of "things-you-should-be-aware-of-that-are-under-the-radar-screen." Our friends at Walker Information just released their 2007 Walker Loyalty report. Surprisingly, employee loyalty leveled off in the ...READ MORE

You Might Be Calling on Someone Who Hates Their Job. What Should Your Sales Strategy Be?

Wednesday, September 5th, 2007

This fits in the category of “things-you-should-be-aware-of-that-are-under-the-radar-screen.”

Our friends at Walker Information just released their 2007 Walker Loyalty report. Surprisingly, employee loyalty leveled off in the last year to 34% of employees being TRULY LOYAL.

Every sales company on the planet should read this report in it’s entirety. Why?

According to the Walker Report, there’s a 1 in 2 chance (59%) you’re calling on someone right now who isn’t particularly ecstatic about their job. (Walker calls that TRAPPED or NEGATIVE about their job). So how much of a champion do you think they’re going to be for your cause if their heart isn’t in theirs? Not much.

Most of the study has to do with what employers should do in light of this data.

But, you should read this report with an eye toward your prospect and how you call on them. We’ve been preaching (sometimes it feels that way) for decades on how you should talk to ALL STAKEHOLDERS of the problems you’re trying to solve — not just the decision maker.

By doing so, you eliminate the risk of putting all your eggs in one basket (one person).

According to the data, If you look at your sales pipeline right now (sales funnel) you can safely conclude that half of your contacts are in that area of Not Truly Loyal employees. Sales Managers - talk about that at your next sales meeting. See if there are some sales strategies you can execute to address that issue.  Ignore this one at your own peril.

September 5th, 2007
Leadership With Kevin Eikenberry

Leadership should be on every sales person's mind. In this interview, Bill and Bryan talk with new author, Kevin Eikenberry, who has written a book ...READ MORE

Leadership With Kevin Eikenberry

Wednesday, September 5th, 2007

Leadership should be on every sales person’s mind. In this interview, Bill and Bryan talk with new author, Kevin Eikenberry, who has written a book called REMARKABLE LEADERSHIP. Listen to this podcast if you are a sales leader/manager or have any inclination to be one someday.

 
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